19 Feb
2020
19 Feb
'20
11:54 p.m.
Hey all,
The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
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David Galloway
Systems Administrator, RDU
Ceph Engineering
IRC: dgalloway
19 Feb
19 Feb
11:58 p.m.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hey all,
The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
I think we’ve had issues with old packages on CentOS in the past that made
doing dev builds annoying — I’m not sure if that’s a reason to make sure we
have it in the dev pool or to avoid it and do regularly-upgraded Fedora
instead...
-Greg
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Ceph Engineering
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1:42 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I'd prefer CentOS 8 as a stable environment. I've found developers
often waste time on debugging Fedora packaging issues. We don't
package for Fedora so it should not be considered.
Is there a reason not to use RHEL8 instead of CentOS?
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Hey all,
The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
I think we’ve had issues with old packages on CentOS in the past that made doing dev
builds annoying — I’m not sure if that’s a reason to make sure we have it in the dev pool
or to avoid it and do regularly-upgraded Fedora instead... 
7:28 a.m.
My vote would be for fedora (kept on a supported release). I don't see
why we, as Red Hat, would want to run Ubuntu (if we *need* Ubuntu then
we should be pulling Ubuntu containers). I see these machines really
as just a platform for setting up containers and therefore I just want
a modern podman or, if you insist, docker. Happy to be
informed/corrected as always and am not passionate about defending my
choice :)
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:43 AM Patrick Donnelly <pdonnell(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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Cheers,
Brad
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I'd prefer CentOS 8 as a stable environment. I've found developers
often waste time on debugging Fedora packaging issues. We don't
package for Fedora so it should not be considered.
Is there a reason not to use RHEL8 instead of CentOS?
--
Patrick Donnelly, Ph.D.
He / Him / His
Senior Software Engineer
Red Hat Sunnyvale, CA
GPG: 19F28A586F808C2402351B93C3301A3E258DD79D
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Hey all,
The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
I think we’ve had issues with old packages on CentOS in the past that made doing dev
builds annoying — I’m not sure if that’s a reason to make sure we have it in the dev pool
or to avoid it and do regularly-upgraded Fedora instead...
8:16 a.m.
On 2/19/20 5:28 PM, Brad Hubbard wrote:
My vote would be for fedora (kept on a supported
release). I don't see
why we, as Red Hat, would want to run Ubuntu (if we *need* Ubuntu then
we should be pulling Ubuntu containers). I see these machines really
as just a platform for setting up containers and therefore I just want
a modern podman or, if you insist, docker. Happy to be
informed/corrected as always and am not passionate about defending my
choice :)
The upstream Ceph community is more than just Red Hat. We build and
publish packages for Ubuntu so naturally it's used as a dev environment.
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:43 AM Patrick Donnelly <pdonnell(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
>>> them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
>>> Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
>>
>> I think we’ve had issues with old packages on CentOS in the past that made doing
dev builds annoying — I’m not sure if that’s a reason to make sure we have it in the dev
pool or to avoid it and do regularly-upgraded Fedora instead...
> I'd prefer CentOS 8 as a stable environment. I've found developers
> often waste time on debugging Fedora packaging issues. We don't
> package for Fedora so it should not be considered.
>
> Is there a reason not to use RHEL8 instead of CentOS?
>
No, not particularly. So I'm hearing maybe 1 Bionic, 1 Fedora, 4 RHEL8?
8:24 a.m.
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:16 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
--
Cheers,
Brad
On 2/19/20 5:28 PM, Brad Hubbard wrote:
Oh, I didn't realise these machines were going to be available to the
upstream Ceph community, fair enough then.
My vote would be for fedora (kept on a supported
release). I don't see
why we, as Red Hat, would want to run Ubuntu (if we *need* Ubuntu then
we should be pulling Ubuntu containers). I see these machines really
as just a platform for setting up containers and therefore I just want
a modern podman or, if you insist, docker. Happy to be
informed/corrected as always and am not passionate about defending my
choice :)
The upstream Ceph community is more than just Red Hat. We build and publish packages for Ubuntu so naturally it's used
as a dev environment.
Are you suggesting this can't be done in containers?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:43 AM Patrick Donnelly <pdonnell(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
>>> them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
>>> Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
>>
>> I think we’ve had issues with old packages on CentOS in the past that made doing
dev builds annoying — I’m not sure if that’s a reason to make sure we have it in the dev
pool or to avoid it and do regularly-upgraded Fedora instead...
> I'd prefer CentOS 8 as a stable environment. I've found developers
> often waste time on debugging Fedora packaging issues. We don't
> package for Fedora so it should not be considered.
>
> Is there a reason not to use RHEL8 instead of CentOS?
>
No, not particularly. So I'm hearing maybe 1 Bionic, 1 Fedora, 4 RHEL8?
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8:29 a.m.
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:24 AM Brad Hubbard <bhubbard(a)redhat.com> wrote:
--
Cheers,
Brad
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Cheers,
Brad
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:16 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Sigh, I misunderstood the whole context of this thread obviously,
please ignore all of my comments. I am not biased against the use of
Ubuntu. I misread this thread as being internal to my company for some
reason so totally "had my Red Hat on" when responding. Sorry for the
confusion and the noise, please carry on.
On 2/19/20 5:28 PM, Brad Hubbard wrote:
Oh, I didn't realise these machines were going to be available to the
upstream Ceph community, fair enough then.
My vote would be for fedora (kept on a supported
release). I don't see
why we, as Red Hat, would want to run Ubuntu (if we *need* Ubuntu then
we should be pulling Ubuntu containers). I see these machines really
as just a platform for setting up containers and therefore I just want
a modern podman or, if you insist, docker. Happy to be
informed/corrected as always and am not passionate about defending my
choice :)
The upstream Ceph community is more than just Red Hat. We build and publish packages for Ubuntu so naturally it's
used as a dev environment.
Are you suggesting this can't be done in containers?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:43 AM Patrick Donnelly <pdonnell(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:59 AM Gregory Farnum <gfarnum(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:55 AM David Galloway <dgallowa(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> The rex replacements (named vossi) are almost ready. There are 6 of
>>> them. What operating system(s) would you all like installed on them?
>>> Half CentOS 8 and half Bionic?
>>
>> I think we’ve had issues with old packages on CentOS in the past that made doing
dev builds annoying — I’m not sure if that’s a reason to make sure we have it in the dev
pool or to avoid it and do regularly-upgraded Fedora instead...
> I'd prefer CentOS 8 as a stable environment. I've found developers
> often waste time on debugging Fedora packaging issues. We don't
> package for Fedora so it should not be considered.
>
> Is there a reason not to use RHEL8 instead of CentOS?
>
No, not particularly. So I'm hearing maybe 1 Bionic, 1 Fedora, 4 RHEL8?
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