HI Joao, You can see how much RocksDB space has been used with this command “ceph daemon osd.X perf dump” Where X is an OSD id on the node you are running the command on. You are looking for this section in the output :- "bluefs": { "gift_bytes": 0, "reclaim_bytes": 0, "db_total_bytes": 23966253056, "db_used_bytes": 1714421760, "wal_total_bytes": 0, "wal_used_bytes": 0, "slow_total_bytes": 0, "slow_used_bytes": 0, "num_files": 24, "log_bytes": 552120320, "log_compactions": 0, "logged_bytes": 537051136, "files_written_wal": 1, "files_written_sst": 11, "bytes_written_wal": 429315193, "bytes_written_sst": 601384180, "bytes_written_slow": 0, "max_bytes_wal": 0, "max_bytes_db": 1714421760, "max_bytes_slow": 0 }, If you have numbers in the slow_ entries then your RocksDB is spilling over onto the HDD. As to if moving RocksDb and WAL on HDD can cause a performance degradation then it depends how busy your disks are. If you HDD’s are working hard and you are now going to throw a lot more workload onto them then performance will degrade. Could be substantially. I have seen performance impacts of upto 75% when things have started spilling over from NVME to HDD. By that I mean I had a lovely flat line ingesting objects and that line suddenly dropped by 75% once the RocksDB had filled up and spilt over onto the HDD. From: João Victor Rodrigues Soares <jvrs2683@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 25 September 2019 at 14:37 To: "ceph-users@ceph.io" <ceph-users@ceph.io> Subject: [ceph-users] Slow Write Issues Hello, In my company, we currently have the following infrastructure: - Ceph Luminous - OpenStack Pike. We have a cluster of 3 osd nodes with the following configuration: - 1 x Xeon (R) D-2146NT CPU @ 2.30GHz - 128GB RAM - 128GB ROOT DISK - 12 x 10TB SATA ST10000NM0146 (OSD) - 1 x Intel Optane P4800X SSD DC 375GB (block.DB / block.wal) - Ubuntu 16.04 - 2 X 10Gb network interface configured with lacp The compute nodes have - 4 x 10Gb network interfaces with lacp. We also have 4 monitors with: - 4 x 10Gb lacp network interfaces. - The monitor nodes are approx. 90% cpu idle time with 32GB / 256GB available RAM For each OSD disk we have created a partition of 33GB to block.db and block.wal. We are recently facing a number of performance issues. Virtual machines created in OpenStack are experiencing slow writing issues (approx. 50MB / s). The OSD nodes monitoring incur an average of 20% cpu IOwait time and 70 cpu idle time. The memory consumption is around 30% consumption. We have no latency issues (9ms average) My question is if what is happening may have to do with the amount of disk dedicated to DB / WAL. In the CEPH documentation it says it is recommended that the block.db size is not smaller than 4% of block. In this case for each disk in my environment block.db could not be less than 400GB / OSD. Another question is if I set my disks to use block.db / block.wal on the mechanical disks themselves, if that could lead to a performance degradation. Att. João Victor Rodrigues Soares