[ceph-users] Re: Compression of data in existing cephfs EC pool

I'm using rsync so I can have it copy times/permissions/acl's etc easier. It also has an output that's one line per file and informative. Actual copy line: rsync --owner --group --links --hard-links --perms --times --acls --itemize-changes "${DIRNAME}/${FILENAME}" "${DIRNAME}/.${FILENAME}.copying" It makes a new file unless it is a link to another file (which it shouldn't be because the find command I used to generate the list excluded them) [pfmeec@gung testing]$ ls -il SMT_X11AST2500_164.zip ; sudo ../wiggler.sh /home/pfmeec/testing/SMT_X11AST2500_164.zip ; ls -il SMT_X11AST2500_164.zip 1101787638344 -rw-r--r--. 1 pfmeec staff 27831340 Jan 4 15:34 SMT_X11AST2500_164.zip 1101787638345 -rw-r--r--. 1 pfmeec staff 27831340 Jan 4 15:34 SMT_X11AST2500_164.zip [pfmeec@gung testing]$ It does have a new inode number, but it feels suspect that the number is only one digit higher. Probably largely because I did several runs in a row to verify and it was just the next inode handed out. -- Paul Mezzanini Sr Systems Administrator / Engineer, Research Computing Information & Technology Services Finance & Administration Rochester Institute of Technology o:(585) 475-3245 | pfmeec(a)rit.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this information. ------------------------ ________________________________________ From: DHilsbos(a)performair.com <DHilsbos(a)performair.com> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:27 PM To: Paul Mezzanini; ceph-users(a)ceph.io Subject: RE: [ceph-users] Re: Compression of data in existing cephfs EC pool Paul; I'm not familiar with rsync, but is it possible you're running into a system issue of the copies being shallow? In other words, is it possible that you're ending up with a hard-link (2 directory entries pointing to the same initial inode), instead of a deep copy? I believe CephFS is implemented such that directories and their entries are omaps, while inodes are data objects. If your operating system / filesystem / copy mechanism isn't creating new inodes, and deleting the old ones, they wouldn't get compressed. Confirmation from a Ceph dev on the above implementation assumptions would be appreciated. Thank you, Dominic L. Hilsbos, MBA Director - Information Technology Perform Air International Inc. DHilsbos(a)PerformAir.com www.PerformAir.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mezzanini [mailto:pfmeec@rit.edu] Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:23 AM To: Burkhard Linke; ceph-users(a)ceph.io Subject: [ceph-users] Re: Compression of data in existing cephfs EC pool That does make sense and I wish it were true however what I'm seeing doesn't support your hypothesis. I've had several drives die and be replaced since the go-live date and I'm actually in the home stretch on reducing the pg_num on that pool so pretty much every PG has already been moved several times over. It's also possible that my method for checking compression is flawed. Spot checks from what I can see in an OSD stat dump and ceph df detail seem to line up so I don't believe this is the case. The only time I see the counters move is when someone puts new data in via globus or migration from a cluster job. I will test what you proposed though by draining an OSD and refilling it then checking the stat dump to see what lives under compression and what does not. -paul -- Paul Mezzanini Sr Systems Administrator / Engineer, Research Computing Information & Technology Services Finance & Administration Rochester Institute of Technology o:(585) 475-3245 | pfmeec(a)rit.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this information. ------------------------ ________________________________________ Just my two cents: Compression is an OSD level operation, and the OSD involved in a PG do no know about each others' compression settings. And they probably also do not care, considering the OSD to be a black box. I would propose to drain OSDs (one by one or host by host by setting osd weights) to move the uncompressed data off. Reset the weights to the former values later to move the data back, and upon writing the data it should be compressed. Compression should also happen during writing the data to other osds when it is moved an OSD, but you will end up with a mix of compressed and uncompressed data on the same OSD. You will have to process all OSDs). If this is working as expected, you do not have to touch the data on the filesystem level at all. The operation happens solely on the underlying storage. 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