5 Dec
2019
5 Dec
'19
5 p.m.
I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in this email is a proposed
change to
the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that proposed
change.
If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
information
pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation, reply
to this
email and tell me.
Documentation Link:
http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations, and to
get a list of
kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
possible, I would like
to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which people in
the community
have successfully tested Ceph.
Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you know of OSes or kernels that
Ceph has been
successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels are
not already in
the list.
Deadline: I'll keep this bug open for two full business days. At the
end of 09 Dec
2019, I'll either add to the list or regard the list as
complete.
Tracking Information (this can be ignored by everyone but Zac)
Bug #5 here: https://pad.ceph.com/p/Report_Documentation_Bugs
5 Dec
5 Dec
5:21 p.m.
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in this
email is a proposed
change to
the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that proposed
change.
If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
information
pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation, reply
to this
email and tell me.
Documentation Link:
http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations, and to
get a list of
kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
possible, I would like
to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which people in
the community
have successfully tested Ceph.
I think the way to approach this is a blanket statement like:
Generally speaking, Ceph should work on any modern Linux distribution.
In practice, we build packages for and test on a select set of common
distributions.
Starting with Octopus, we recommend deployments consume Ceph via a
container image instead of packages. The container itself is based on
CentOS 8. The container is generally consumed by either Rook.io or the
ceph-daemon tool. In the later case, the OS requirements are relaxed, ...
Specifically, we build packages for:
...
We test on:
...
Something along those lines?
Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you know of
OSes or kernels th
Ceph has been
successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels are
not already in
the list.
By the time of octopus release, I belive this will be:
Build
- CentOS 8 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (aarch64) (I think?)
Test
- centos 7.6 (containerized ceph only)
- centos 8.0
- ubuntu 18.04
We need to pin this down pretty soon. Much of this is piled up behind
the py3 conversion, which is oh-so-close...
sage
> Deadline: I'll keep this bug open for two full business days. At the
> end of 09 Dec
> 2019, I'll either add to the list or regard the list as
> complete.
>
>
>
> Tracking Information (this can be ignored by everyone but Zac)
> Bug #5 here: https://pad.ceph.com/p/Report_Documentation_Bugs
>
8:37 p.m.
Sage,
Your suggested text is a good start. Something quite like it is already in
place.
When is the Octopus release expected?
Zac
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:21 AM Sage Weil <sage(a)newdream.net> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in
this email is a
proposed
change to
the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that
proposed
change.
If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
information
pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation,
reply
to this
email and tell me.
Documentation Link:
http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations, and
to
get a list of
kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
possible, I would like
to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which people in
the community
have successfully tested Ceph.
I think the way to approach this is a blanket statement like:
Generally speaking, Ceph should work on any modern Linux distribution.
In practice, we build packages for and test on a select set of common
distributions.
Starting with Octopus, we recommend deployments consume Ceph via a
container image instead of packages. The container itself is based on
CentOS 8. The container is generally consumed by either Rook.io or the
ceph-daemon tool. In the later case, the OS requirements are relaxed, ...
Specifically, we build packages for:
...
We test on:
...
Something along those lines?
Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you
know of OSes or kernels th
Ceph has been
successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels are
not already in
the list.
By the time of octopus release, I belive this will be:
Build
- CentOS 8 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (aarch64) (I think?)
Test
- centos 7.6 (containerized ceph only)
- centos 8.0
- ubuntu 18.04
We need to pin this down pretty soon. Much of this is piled up behind
the py3 conversion, which is oh-so-close...
sage
Deadline: I'll keep this bug open for
two full business days. At
the
end of 09 Dec
2019, I'll either add to the list or regard the list as
complete.
Tracking Information (this can be ignored by everyone but Zac)
Bug #5 here: https://pad.ceph.com/p/Report_Documentation_Bugs
8:48 p.m.
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
Sage,
Your suggested text is a good start. Something quite like it is already in
place.
When is the Octopus release expected?
March 2020
sage
>
> Zac
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:21 AM Sage Weil <sage(a)newdream.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
> > > I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in this email is a
> > proposed
> > > change to
> > > the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that
> > proposed
> > > change.
> > > If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
> > > information
> > > pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation,
> > reply
> > > to this
> > > email and tell me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Documentation Link:
> > > http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
> > >
> > > Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations,
and
> > to
> > > get a list of
> > > kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
> > > possible, I would like
> > > to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which people in
> > > the community
> > > have successfully tested Ceph.
> >
> > I think the way to approach this is a blanket statement like:
> >
> > Generally speaking, Ceph should work on any modern Linux distribution.
> > In practice, we build packages for and test on a select set of common
> > distributions.
> >
> > Starting with Octopus, we recommend deployments consume Ceph via a
> > container image instead of packages. The container itself is based on
> > CentOS 8. The container is generally consumed by either Rook.io or the
> > ceph-daemon tool. In the later case, the OS requirements are relaxed, ...
> >
> > Specifically, we build packages for:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > We test on:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Something along those lines?
> >
> > > Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you know of OSes or kernels th
> > > Ceph has been
> > > successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels are
> > > not already in
> > > the list.
> >
> > By the time of octopus release, I belive this will be:
> >
> > Build
> > - CentOS 8 (x86_64)
> > - Ubuntu 18.04 (x86_64)
> > - Ubuntu 18.04 (aarch64) (I think?)
> >
> > Test
> > - centos 7.6 (containerized ceph only)
> > - centos 8.0
> > - ubuntu 18.04
> >
> > We need to pin this down pretty soon. Much of this is piled up behind
> > the py3 conversion, which is oh-so-close...
> >
> > sage
> >
> >
> >
> > > Deadline: I'll keep this bug open for two full business days. At
> > the
> > > end of 09 Dec
> > > 2019, I'll either add to the list or regard the list
as
> > > complete.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tracking Information (this can be ignored by everyone but Zac)
> > > Bug #5 here: https://pad.ceph.com/p/Report_Documentation_Bugs
> > >
> >
>
6 Dec
6 Dec
5:59 p.m.
Can I get a list of Mimic-supported OSes and kernels?
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:48 AM Sage Weil <sage(a)newdream.net> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
Sage,
Your suggested text is a good start. Something quite like it is already
in
place.
When is the Octopus release expected?
March 2020
sage
Zac
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:21 AM Sage Weil <sage(a)newdream.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
> > I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in this email is a
> proposed
> > change to
> > the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that
> proposed
> > change.
> > If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
> > information
> > pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation,
> reply
> > to this
> > email and tell me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Documentation Link:
> > http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
> >
> > Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations,
and
> to
> > get a list of
> > kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
> > possible, I would like
> > to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which
people
in
> > the community
> > have successfully tested Ceph.
>
> I think the way to approach this is a blanket statement like:
>
> Generally speaking, Ceph should work on any modern Linux distribution.
> In practice, we build packages for and test on a select set of common
> distributions.
>
> Starting with Octopus, we recommend deployments consume Ceph via a
> container image instead of packages. The container itself is based on
> CentOS 8. The container is generally consumed by either Rook.io or the
> ceph-daemon tool. In the later case, the OS requirements are relaxed,
...
>
> Specifically, we build packages for:
>
> ...
>
> We test on:
>
> ...
>
> Something along those lines?
>
> > Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you know of OSes or kernels th
> > Ceph has been
> > successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels
are
> > not already in
> > the list.
>
> By the time of octopus release, I belive this will be:
>
> Build
> - CentOS 8 (x86_64)
> - Ubuntu 18.04 (x86_64)
> - Ubuntu 18.04 (aarch64) (I think?)
>
> Test
> - centos 7.6 (containerized ceph only)
> - centos 8.0
> - ubuntu 18.04
>
> We need to pin this down pretty soon. Much of this is piled up behind
> the py3 conversion, which is oh-so-close...
>
> sage
>
>
>
> > Deadline: I'll keep this bug open for two full business days.
At
> the
> > end of 09 Dec
> > 2019, I'll either add to the list or regard the list
as
complete.
Tracking Information (this can be ignored by everyone but Zac)
Bug #5 here: https://pad.ceph.com/p/Report_Documentation_Bugs
18 Jan
18 Jan
3:03 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sage Weil <sage(a)newdream.net> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
Could we also get an updated Fedora-based recommendation? It's kind of
depressing to see Fedora 22 still mentioned on the website.
I personally run Ceph on Fedora rather than CentOS, and pretty much
all the guidelines for CentOS 8 would apply to a recent Fedora
version.
--
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in
this email is a proposed
change to
the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that proposed
change.
If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
information
pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation, reply
to this
email and tell me.
Documentation Link:
http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations, and to
get a list of
kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
possible, I would like
to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which people in
the community
have successfully tested Ceph.
I think the way to approach this is a blanket statement like:
Generally speaking, Ceph should work on any modern Linux distribution.
In practice, we build packages for and test on a select set of common
distributions.
Starting with Octopus, we recommend deployments consume Ceph via a
container image instead of packages. The container itself is based on
CentOS 8. The container is generally consumed by either Rook.io or the
ceph-daemon tool. In the later case, the OS requirements are relaxed, ...
Specifically, we build packages for:
...
We test on:
...
Something along those lines?
Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you
know of OSes or kernels th
Ceph has been
successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels are
not already in
the list.
By the time of octopus release, I belive this will be:
Build
- CentOS 8 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (aarch64) (I think?)
Test
- centos 7.6 (containerized ceph only)
- centos 8.0
- ubuntu 18.04
We need to pin this down pretty soon. Much of this is piled up behind
the py3 conversion, which is oh-so-close...
19 Jan
19 Jan
2:26 a.m.
The only place in the user-facing docs I can see that mentions Fedora 22 is
here:
https://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/start/os-recommendations/
This page explains that jewel can run on Fedora 22 and higher. I don't
think that this should be changed, because it refers to jewel (which is
past EOL) and is of historical interest.
Is there anywhere else on the website that mentions Fedora in a way that
makes the site look decrepit?
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 12:03 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sage Weil
<sage(a)newdream.net> wrote:
...
Could we also get an updated Fedora-based recommendation? It's kind of
depressing to see Fedora 22 still mentioned on the website.
I personally run Ceph on Fedora rather than CentOS, and pretty much
all the guidelines for CentOS 8 would apply to a recent Fedora
version.
--
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, John Zachary Dover wrote:
> I am updating the Ceph documentation. Included in this email is a
proposed
> change to
> the documentation and a request for information pertaining to that
proposed
> change.
> If you know about the issue behind the proposed change and you have
> information
> pertinent to it that you would like to enshrine in the documentation,
reply
> to this
> email and tell me.
>
>
>
> Documentation Link:
> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
>
> Proposed Change: I'd like to update the list of OS recommendations,
and
to
> get a list of
> kernel versions that are supported. If this is not
> possible, I would like
> to publish a list of OSes and kernels on which people
in
the
community
have successfully tested Ceph.
I think the way to approach this is a blanket statement like:
Generally speaking, Ceph should work on any modern Linux distribution.
In practice, we build packages for and test on a select set of common
distributions.
Starting with Octopus, we recommend deployments consume Ceph via a
container image instead of packages. The container itself is based on
CentOS 8. The container is generally consumed by either Rook.io or the
ceph-daemon tool. In the later case, the OS requirements are relaxed,
Specifically, we build packages for:
...
We test on:
...
Something along those lines?
> Zac's Request: Reply to this email if you know of OSes or kernels th
> Ceph has been
> successfully tested on, and if those OSes or kernels
are
not
already in
the list.
By the time of octopus release, I belive this will be:
Build
- CentOS 8 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (x86_64)
- Ubuntu 18.04 (aarch64) (I think?)
Test
- centos 7.6 (containerized ceph only)
- centos 8.0
- ubuntu 18.04
We need to pin this down pretty soon. Much of this is piled up behind
the py3 conversion, which is oh-so-close...
5:50 p.m.
On 1/19/20 2:26 AM, John Zachary Dover wrote:
> > Documentation Link:
> > http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
Nautilus is shipped in Debian unstable/testing and buster-backports for
all architectures supported by Debian (mips* will follow soon for buster).
Lumious works also fine in Buster.
If there is any interest I'll push octopus to debian/experimental soonish.
--
Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org
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5:56 p.m.
On 1/19/20 2:26 AM, John Zachary Dover wrote:
> > Documentation Link:
> > http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
Nautilus is shipped in Debian unstable/testing and buster-backports for
all architectures supported by Debian (mips* will follow soon for buster).
Lumious works also fine in Buster.
If there is any interest I'll push octopus to debian/experimental soonish.
--
Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org
GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F
8:40 p.m.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM John Zachary Dover <zac.dover(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The only place in the user-facing docs I can see that mentions Fedora 22 is here:
https://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/start/os-recommendations/
This page explains that jewel can run on Fedora 22 and higher. I don't think that
this should be changed, because it refers to jewel (which is past EOL) and is of
historical interest.
Is there anywhere else on the website that mentions Fedora in a way that makes the site
look decrepit?
It shows up here: https://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/os-recommendations/
It's in reference to Luminous...
--
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
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