The main goal of using OPA like as AWS IAM is having
an external
authorization so we can have out own management on policies from
external source of truth (OPA) too.
I think it’s better to handle bucket policy with OPA as well as AWS
does so we can have a better S3 service :)
Can you expand on why that's better than the model I suggested earlier
in the thread, where a centralized policy service uses radosgw's
existing IAM APIs to manage policy instead of requiring radosgw to call
out to an external service for every request?
I'd also like to clarify what you mean when you say "handle bucket
policy with OPA" - my understanding is that it's not something that OPA
itself does, but something very specific to your own product's OPA
policy script. Am I getting that right? If so, it sounds like you're
trying to re-engineer our OPA integration in a way that a) is not useful
to OPA users in general, and b) duplicates functionality that radosgw
already provides.
For OPA users that just want the ability to write simple scripts to
customize authorization for their environment, I think our current level
of OPA integration is sufficient.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:16 PM Casey Bodley <cbodley(a)redhat.com
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>> wrote:
Is there an advantage to doing this in OPA over radosgw? Have you
looked
at using our PutUserPolicy[1] APIs instead? We support both user and
bucket policy, and (as far as I know) handle the intersection of
the two
as you'd expect.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/IAM/latest/APIReference/API_PutUserPolicy.html
On 2/5/20 9:55 AM, Seena Fallah wrote:
I'm trying to implement AWS IAM with OPA so I
can have external
authorization for my S3 service and also have an active bucket
ACL and
bucket policy.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:11 PM Casey Bodley <cbodley(a)redhat.com
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>>> wrote:
I'm confused by your references to AWS IAM. Are you talking
about
radosgw user policy? Or are you trying to
implement IAM policy
inside of
OPA?
On 2/5/20 8:54 AM, Seena Fallah wrote:
Hi all.
Any updates here? :)
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 10:37 AM Seena Fallah
<seenafallah(a)gmail.com
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<mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>>>>
wrote:
>
> I should also mention that if we get access to bucket
via bucket
> policy and reject it via AWS IAM,
the request will
reject so I
think
we should make a new behavior at what we should do
with this
> two source of truth?
>
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 10:33 AM Seena Fallah
> <seenafallah(a)gmail.com <mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>
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<mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
> Yes but the main problem is when the policy isn't
set in
AWS
IAM for example a user has only AmazonS3ReadOnlyAccess
and we
> give PutObject policy via bucket policy, user can
put object
> to that bucket but in radosgw,
OPA will deny this
process
> because there is only
ReadOnlyAccess to that
bucket for user
> and radosgw will not check
bucket policy that gave
access to
> user.
> I think we should weight bucket policy over OPA so
if bucket
> policy accept that request it
doesn't need to be
checked
with
> OPA BUT if there is no policy according to that
request it
> should check by OPA because if
the policy
according to that
> request isn't set bucket
policy will reject that
request
so it
> against failed!
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:30 AM Casey Bodley
> <cbodley(a)redhat.com <mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com <mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>>
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<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>>>> wrote:
On 1/30/20 2:18 PM, Seena Fallah wrote:
> Hi Casey,
>
> The main problem now is when OPA integration is
enabled
> bucket
> > policies aren’t work!
> > I have checked AWS S3 that what is doing
when both
> bucket policy and
> > IAM policy (the policy is set with AWS panel
in IAM
> section) is set it
> > will OR between two of them so now in
radosgw S3 we
> don’t have this
> > feature and bucket policies won’t work when OPA
> integration is enabled.
> >
> > So I think it’s better to active this
feature and
> enabled bucket
> > policy when OpA integration is enabled.
> >
> > There is two solutions here in this
discussion for
> enabling bucket
> > policy on OPA integration:
> > 1. Send bucket policy on set/del actions to
OPA
server
> to be apply on
> > OPA policy rules so in this case the source
of
truth
> will be OPA (the
> > state that we have now in OPA integration)
and so
these
policies that
> sent from bucket policy will be applied.
> 2. OR between bucket policy and OPA policy like
AWS S3.
So there is
> two source of truth in this case and if any of
them deny
the request,
the request will be denied.
What you described here in 2. is exactly how it
currently
> works.
>
> >
> > Do have any other solutions we have here and
which
of
> these solutions
> > do you prefer to have?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:21 PM Casey Bodley
> <cbodley(a)redhat.com
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wrote:
>
> Hi Seena,
>
> I think it would probably help if you could
describe
> your use case
> > here,
> > and what role you want OPA to play in the
> interpretation of these
> > bucket
> > policies. In other words, what is it
that your
OPA
policy is doing
> with
> these bucket policy documents that shouldn't
be done
> within radosgw?
> >
> > On 1/30/20 1:09 AM, Seena Fallah wrote:
> > > So Matt what should we have done with
bucket
> policy if we enable
> > OPA
> > > integration?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:45 AM Matt
Benjamin
> >
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> > >
> > > I think we should not be
introducing
new
> special case
> > behavior, nor
> > > sending policy documents to OPA,
which
from
> what we have
> > heard and
> > > read, intends to make no use of them.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:45 PM
Seena
Fallah
> > >
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<mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think it’s better to OR
between
two
of the
bucket
> policies and
> > OPA policies. So if one of them reject
certain
> access the
> > request
> > > will reject as AWS do on its IAM
and
bucket
> policy.
> > > > Are you okay with this idea?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:13 PM
Casey
Bodley
> > > <cbodley(a)redhat.com
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com
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wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 1/28/20 2:45 PM, Matthias Muench
wrote:
> > > >> > Hi,
> > > >> > I think making Ceph special
to what the
rest of the clients
> > in the
> > >> > world would expect would be a bit
off the
> idea of providing
> > > S3 like
> > > >> > service.
> > > >> > To my understanding, setting
OPA to be
> the source of
> > truth would
> > > >> > introduce latency (based on
Casey’s
> comments) and will not
> > > allow to
> > > >> > set policies (based on Seena).
> > > >> > The first one brings us
towards harder
> latency and
> > especially
> > > >> > depending on extern systems
resource
capability (assume
> central
> > >> > resource as the idea is and
therefor not
necessarily really
> > “in reach”
> > >> > within an acceptable latency,
routing in
addition,
> etc.). The
> > second
> > >> > one says simply that this would
break any
existing
> > compatibility with
> > >> > clients and use cases. To me it
looks not
> that good to
> > loose
> > > on both ends.
> > > >>
> > > >> Agreed. Even if one has to
opt-in to this
broken s3
> > compatiblity, I'm
> > >> skeptical that users will find this
to
be a
> compelling target
> > > for their
> > > >> applications.
> > > >>
> > > >> The existing prototype of OPA
integration
> sends this
> > authorization
> > > >> request to OPA -in addition to-
radosgw's
own authorization
> > logic, where
> > >> we consult any of our user/bucket
policies
> or ACLs that
> > apply.
> > > In this
> > > >> model, OPA is not the only
source of
truth.
> It just has the
> > > opportunity
> > > >> to deny access that we would
otherwise
grant, so it doesn't
> > require that
> > >> we break compatibility with any S3
features
that conflict
> with
> > OPA's
> > >> view of policy.
> > >>
> > >> Were we to change this so that OPA
was
the
> only source of
> > > truth, then
> > > >> we'd be left with two bad
options: either
reject all requests
> > to modify
> > >> policy and break existing
applications,
or
> send all
> > policy/ACL
> > > >> information to OPA and require
every OPA
> policy script to
> > implement
> > > >> s3-compatible enforcement of
them. I also
> don't see any
> > benefit
> > > to this
> > > >> model - why, if an client wants
to use s3
policy to
> restrict a
> > certain
> > >> access, would OPA want to override
that
and
> grant access
> > instead?
> > > >>
> > > >> > I could live more with the
latency
issue
but wouldn’t
> like it.
> > >> > For the second, I can understand
the idea
> of having
> > > simplification for
> > > >> > auditing the access but I’m
not that
> convinced to take the
> > > burden of
> > > >> > being “the special” one that
nobody
wants
> to work with.
> > So, I
> > > would
> > > >> > love to see the full fledged
support of
> setting the
> > policy by
> > > clients,
> > > >> > no matter what the result
would be in
> terms of
> > implementing it to
> > > >> > interact with OPA. Instead,
having an
> additional
> > requirement to
> > > >> > implement additional handling
to set
> policies different
> > from
> > > what S3
> > > >> > actually provides would
require special
> clients first and
> > > secondly an
> > > >> > additional path to OPA with
all the
> additional burden
> > to tweak
> > > >> > security to allow this path
to OPA. I
> feel that the first
> > > wouldn’t
> > > >> > happen (special clients) and
the second
> in practice not
> > > either because
> > > >> > of security constraints by
the OPA
admin
> folks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > G,
> > > >> > -matt
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ——————————————————
> > > >> > Matthias Muench
> > > >> > Senior Specialist Solution
Architect
> > > >>
> EMEA Storage Specialist
> > > >> > matthias.muench(a)redhat.com
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> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Amazon AWS S3 has two type of
policies.
> One from bucket
> > > policy and
> > > >> >> one form IAM. I think it
could be
better
> to have two
> > > policies models
> > > >> >> in Ceph one from bucket
policy and one
form OPA if its
> enable.
> > >> >> So if you are okay we can change
the PR
> to make bucket
> > > policy enabled
> > > >> >> when OPA is enabled, too.
Because now
> > bucket policies not
> > > > working
> > > > >> >> when OPA integration is
enabled.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at
2:57 AM
> Seena Fallah
> > >
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> > >> >>
> > >> >> Matt When OPA integration is
enabled
> S3 policies
> > doesn’t
> > > work! If
> > > >> >> you want them to be
worked we
should
> bypass S3
> > policies
> > > to OPA
> > > >> >> for being applied and
worked.
> >> >> Here we have
conflict in OPA
integration with S3
> policies!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:52
AM Matt
> Benjamin
> > > >> >> <mbenjami(a)redhat.com
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<mailto:mbenjami@redhat.com>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>
>>
> > > >> >> My take so far is that this is
> not a bug, and I'd
> > > like not to
> > > >> >> introduce special-case logic
to
> override or
> > suppress
> > > >> >> processing of
> > > >> >> native policy.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Matt
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:24
PM
> Seena Fallah
> > > >> >> <seenafallah(a)gmail.com
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<mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>
>> >
> > > >> >> > I think it's very good
that
> Ceph export its
> > > authorization
> > > >> >> and we could have external
> source of truth
> > with it. S3
> > > >> >> policies can transport to OPA
> and updates by users
> > > set/del
> > > >> >> policies.
> > > >> >> > But now we have conflict
with OPA
> > integration and S3
> > > >> >> policies which is set when OPA
> integration is
> > > enabled, aren't
> > > >> >> work.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Can you all please help
to fix
> this bug?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at
1:05
> PM Seena Fallah
> > > >> >> <seenafallah(a)gmail.com
<mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>
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> > > >>
>> >>
> > > >> >> >> Hi all.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Any updates here?
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020
at 2:50
> AM Seena Fallah
> > > >> >> <seenafallah(a)gmail.com
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<mailto:seenafallah@gmail.com>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>
>> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> OPA can be used in
companies that
> uses many
> > > services like
> > > >> >> k8s, Ceph,... and want to have
> one central
> > point for
> > > >> >> authorizing users so they can
> maintenance their
> > > access for
> > > >> >> each user on each service for
> example and etc.
> > It’s
> > > just a
> > > >> >> use case and so it’s really
good
> to have it. I
> > think
> > > this is
> > > >> >> the biggest use case for
having
> OPA in
> > products that
> > > gets an
> > > >> >> option to centralize
authorizing
> for all types of
> > > services.
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Performance for
this
model is
issue
> like
> > having
> > > keystone
> > > >> >> with Ceph. So I think it’s
based
> on users that
> > > active this
> > > >> >> integrations at all.
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> The model for
writing
policies to
> radosgw
> > isn’t
> > > really
> > > >> >> good I think because of the
> reason above if
> > this accrued
> > > >> >> there is always two copies of
> policies and it
> > > doesn’t sounds
> > > >> >> good for maintaining.
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> If bucket policy
disable, s3
> clients like
> > boto3
> > > and etc
> > > >> >> will not work for setting
> polices but I think when
> > > someone is
> > > >> >> enabling OPA for authorizing
it
> will also have an
> > > API for
> > > >> >> his/her OPA server to set/del
> policies and
> > they can call
> > > >> >> these APIs to set/del
policies.
> > > >> >> >>> And for extensions
like
> PublicAccessBlock,
> > it will
> > > >> >> disable because OPA is just
> authorizing
> > requests and
> > > Ceph
> > > >> >> doesn’t authorize any request
> when OPA integration
> > > is enabled
> > > >> >> so OPA should handle any
> incoming policies
> > were made
> > > by S3
> > > >> >> policies. So it doesn’t make
> conflicts and if OPA
> > > integration
> > > >> >> is enabled it won’t work as we
> return 405 on each
> > > set/del
> > > >> >> policies requests and if OPA
is
> disabled users can
> > > use this
> > > >> >> policies.
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> On Tue, Jan 21,
2020 at
2:05 AM
> Casey Bodley
> > > >> >> <cbodley(a)redhat.com
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com>
<mailto:cbodley@redhat.com
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