11 Dec
2020
11 Dec
'20
12:43 a.m.
Hi Folks
We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504 OSDs with 24
per node) that the mgr's are, after a non specific period of time, dropping
out of the cluster. The logs only show the following:
debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0 log_channel(cluster) log
[DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129 active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
_check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
early (before 2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
_check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
early (before 2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The instances
are all syncing their time with NTP and have no issues on that front. A
restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
It appears that this may be related to https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus metrics, however, this
obviously isn't realistic for a production environment where metrics are
critical for operations.
Please let us know what additional information we can provide to assist in
resolving this critical issue.
Cheers
Welby
11 Dec
11 Dec
3:01 a.m.
Do you have the prometheus module enabled? Turn that off, it's causing
issues. I replaced it with another ceph exporter from Github and almost
forgot about it.
Here's the relevant issue report:
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264#change-179946
On 10/12/2020 16:43, Welby McRoberts wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504 OSDs with
24
> per node) that the mgr's are, after a non specific period of time, dropping
> out of the cluster. The logs only show the following:
>
> debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0 log_channel(cluster) log
> [DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129 active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
> used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
> debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
> early (before 2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
> debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
> early (before 2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
>
> The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The instances
> are all syncing their time with NTP and have no issues on that front. A
> restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
>
> It appears that this may be related to https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
> The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus metrics, however, this
> obviously isn't realistic for a production environment where metrics are
> critical for operations.
>
> Please let us know what additional information we can provide to assist in
> resolving this critical issue.
>
> Cheers
> Welby
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3:05 a.m.
FYI, this is the ceph-exporter we're using at the moment:
https://github.com/digitalocean/ceph_exporter
It's not as good, but it does the job mostly. Some more specific metrics
are missing, but the majority is there.
On 10/12/2020 19:01, Janek Bevendorff wrote:
> Do you have the prometheus module enabled? Turn that off, it's causing
> issues. I replaced it with another ceph exporter from Github and
> almost forgot about it.
>
> Here's the relevant issue report:
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264#change-179946
>
> On 10/12/2020 16:43, Welby McRoberts wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504 OSDs
>> with 24
>> per node) that the mgr's are, after a non specific period of time,
>> dropping
>> out of the cluster. The logs only show the following:
>>
>> debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0
>> log_channel(cluster) log
>> [DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129 active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
>> used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
>> debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
>> early (before 2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
>> debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
>> early (before 2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
>>
>> The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The
>> instances
>> are all syncing their time with NTP and have no issues on that front. A
>> restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
>>
>> It appears that this may be related to
>> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
>> The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus metrics, however, this
>> obviously isn't realistic for a production environment where metrics are
>> critical for operations.
>>
>> Please let us know what additional information we can provide to
>> assist in
>> resolving this critical issue.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Welby
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8:12 a.m.
Hi Janek,
We realize this, we referenced that issue in our initial email. We do want
the metrics exposed by Ceph internally, and would prefer to work towards a
fix upstream. We appreciate the suggestion for a workaround, however!
Again, we're happy to provide whatever information we can that would be of
assistance. If there's some debug setting that is preferred, we are happy
to implement it, as this is currently a test cluster for us to work through
issues such as this one.
David
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:02 PM Janek Bevendorff <
janek.bevendorff(a)uni-weimar.de> wrote:
Do you have the prometheus module enabled? Turn that
off, it's causing
issues. I replaced it with another ceph exporter from Github and almost
forgot about it.
Here's the relevant issue report:
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264#change-179946
On 10/12/2020 16:43, Welby McRoberts wrote:
Hi Folks
We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504 OSDs with
24
per node) that the mgr's are, after a non
specific period of time,
dropping
out of the cluster. The logs only show the
following:
debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0 log_channel(cluster)
log
[DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129
active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
_check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
early (before 2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
_check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
early (before 2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The
instances
are all syncing their time with NTP and have no
issues on that front. A
restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
It appears that this may be related to
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus
metrics, however, this
obviously isn't realistic for a production environment where metrics are
critical for operations.
Please let us know what additional information we can provide to assist
in
resolving this critical issue.
Cheers
Welby
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11:10 p.m.
On 11/12/2020 00:12, David Orman wrote:
Hi Janek,
We realize this, we referenced that issue in our initial email. We do want
the metrics exposed by Ceph internally, and would prefer to work towards a
fix upstream. We appreciate the suggestion for a workaround, however!
Again, we're happy to provide whatever information we can that would be of
assistance. If there's some debug setting that is preferred, we are happy
to implement it, as this is currently a test cluster for us to work through
issues such as this one.
Have you tried disabling Prometheus just to see if this also fixes the
issue for you?
Wido
> David
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:02 PM Janek Bevendorff <
> janek.bevendorff(a)uni-weimar.de> wrote:
>
>> Do you have the prometheus module enabled? Turn that off, it's causing
>> issues. I replaced it with another ceph exporter from Github and almost
>> forgot about it.
>>
>> Here's the relevant issue report:
>> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264#change-179946
>>
>> On 10/12/2020 16:43, Welby McRoberts wrote:
>>> Hi Folks
>>>
>>> We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504
OSDs with
>> 24
>>> per node) that the mgr's are, after a non specific period of time,
>> dropping
>>> out of the cluster. The logs only show the following:
>>>
>>> debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0 log_channel(cluster)
>> log
>>> [DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129 active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
>>> used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
>>> debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
>>> early (before 2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
>>> debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
>>> early (before 2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
>>>
>>> The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The
>> instances
>>> are all syncing their time with NTP and have no issues on that front. A
>>> restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
>>>
>>> It appears that this may be related to
>> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
>>> The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus metrics, however, this
>>> obviously isn't realistic for a production environment where metrics are
>>> critical for operations.
>>>
>>> Please let us know what additional information we can provide to assist
>> in
>>> resolving this critical issue.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Welby
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> _______________________________________________
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12 Dec
12 Dec
12:10 a.m.
No, as the number of responses we've seen in the mailing lists and on the
bug report(s) have indicated it fixed the situation, we didn't proceed down
that path (it seemed highly probable it would resolve things). If it's of
additional value, we can disable the module temporarily to see if the
problem no longer presents itself, but our intent would not be to continue
to leave the module disabled and instead work towards resolution of the
issue at hand.
Let us know if disabling this module would assist in troubleshooting, and
we're happy to do so.
FWIW - we've also built a container with all of the debuginfo packages and
gdb setup to inspect the unresponsive ceph-mgr process, but our
understanding of ceph's internal workings is not deep enough to determine
why it appears to be deadlocking. That said, we welcome any requests for
any additional information we can provide to assist in determining the
cause/implementation of a solution.
David
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 8:10 AM Wido den Hollander <wido(a)42on.com> wrote:
On 11/12/2020 00:12, David Orman wrote:
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Hi Janek,
We realize this, we referenced that issue in our initial email. We do
want
the metrics exposed by Ceph internally, and would
prefer to work towards
a
fix upstream. We appreciate the suggestion for a
workaround, however!
Again, we're happy to provide whatever information we can that would be
of
assistance. If there's some debug setting
that is preferred, we are happy
to implement it, as this is currently a test cluster for us to work
through
issues such as this one.
Have you tried disabling Prometheus just to see if this also fixes the
issue for you?
Wido
David
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:02 PM Janek Bevendorff <
janek.bevendorff(a)uni-weimar.de> wrote:
> Do you have the prometheus module enabled? Turn that off, it's causing
> issues. I replaced it with another ceph exporter from Github and almost
> forgot about it.
>
> Here's the relevant issue report:
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264#change-179946
>
> On 10/12/2020 16:43, Welby McRoberts wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504 OSDs
with
> 24
>> per node) that the mgr's are, after a non specific period of time,
> dropping
>> out of the cluster. The logs only show the following:
>>
>> debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0 log_channel(cluster)
> log
>> [DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129 active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
>> used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
>> debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
>> early (before 2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
>> debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way too
>> early (before 2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
>>
>> The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The
> instances
>> are all syncing their time with NTP and have no issues on that front. A
>> restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
>>
>> It appears that this may be related to
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
>> The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus metrics, however, this
>> obviously isn't realistic for a production environment where metrics
are
critical for operations.
Please let us know what additional information we can provide to assist
in
resolving this critical issue.
Cheers
Welby
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22 Dec
22 Dec
1:17 a.m.
We've got a PR in to fix this; we validated it resolves the issue in our
larger clusters. We could use some help getting this moved forward since it
seems to impact a number of users:
https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/38677
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 9:10 AM David Orman <ormandj(a)corenode.com> wrote:
No, as the number of responses we've seen in the
mailing lists and on the
bug report(s) have indicated it fixed the situation, we didn't proceed down
that path (it seemed highly probable it would resolve things). If it's of
additional value, we can disable the module temporarily to see if the
problem no longer presents itself, but our intent would not be to continue
to leave the module disabled and instead work towards resolution of the
issue at hand.
Let us know if disabling this module would assist in troubleshooting, and
we're happy to do so.
FWIW - we've also built a container with all of the debuginfo packages and
gdb setup to inspect the unresponsive ceph-mgr process, but our
understanding of ceph's internal workings is not deep enough to determine
why it appears to be deadlocking. That said, we welcome any requests for
any additional information we can provide to assist in determining the
cause/implementation of a solution.
David
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 8:10 AM Wido den Hollander <wido(a)42on.com> wrote:
On 11/12/2020 00:12, David Orman wrote:
Hi Janek,
We realize this, we referenced that issue in our initial email. We do
want
the metrics exposed by Ceph internally, and would
prefer to work
towards a
fix upstream. We appreciate the suggestion for a
workaround, however!
Again, we're happy to provide whatever information we can that would be
of
assistance. If there's some debug setting
that is preferred, we are
happy
to implement it, as this is currently a test
cluster for us to work
through
issues such as this one.
Have you tried disabling Prometheus just to see if this also fixes the
issue for you?
Wido
David
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:02 PM Janek Bevendorff <
janek.bevendorff(a)uni-weimar.de> wrote:
> Do you have the prometheus module enabled? Turn that off, it's causing
> issues. I replaced it with another ceph exporter from Github and almost
> forgot about it.
>
> Here's the relevant issue report:
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264#change-179946
>
> On 10/12/2020 16:43, Welby McRoberts wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> We've noticed that in a cluster of 21 nodes (5 mgrs&mons & 504 OSDs
with
> 24
>> per node) that the mgr's are, after a non specific period of time,
> dropping
>> out of the cluster. The logs only show the following:
>>
>> debug 2020-12-10T02:02:50.409+0000 7f1005840700 0
log_channel(cluster)
> log
>> [DBG] : pgmap v14163: 4129 pgs: 4129 active+clean; 10 GiB data, 31 TiB
>> used, 6.3 PiB / 6.3 PiB avail
>> debug 2020-12-10T03:20:59.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way
too
>> early (before
2020-12-10T02:20:59.226159+0000)
>> debug 2020-12-10T03:21:00.223+0000 7f10624eb700 -1 monclient:
>> _check_auth_rotating possible clock skew, rotating keys expired way
too
>> early (before
2020-12-10T02:21:00.226310+0000)
>>
>> The _check_auth_rotating repeats approximately every second. The
> instances
>> are all syncing their time with NTP and have no issues on that front.
A
>> restart of the mgr fixes the issue.
>>
>> It appears that this may be related to
> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39264.
>> The suggestion seems to be to disable prometheus metrics, however,
this
>> obviously isn't realistic for a
production environment where metrics
are
>> critical for operations.
>>
>> Please let us know what additional information we can provide to
assist
in
> resolving this critical issue.
>
> Cheers
> Welby
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