Hi everyone, We are splitting the ceph-devel(a)vger.kernel.org list into two: - dev(a)ceph.io This will be the new general purpose Ceph development discussion list. We encourage all subscribers to the current ceph-devel(a)vger.kernel.org to subscribe to this new list. Subscribe to the new ceph-devel list now at: https://lists.ceph.io/postorius/lists/dev.ceph.io/ (We were originally going to call this list ceph-devel(a)ceph.io, but are going with dev(a)ceph.io instead to avoid the confusion of having two 'ceph-devel's, particularly when searching archives.) - ceph-devel(a)vger.kernel.org The current list will continue to exist, but its role will shift to Linux kernel-related traffic, including kernel patches and discussion of implementation details for the kernel client code. At some point in the future, when all non-kernel discussion has shifted to the new list, you might want to unsubscribe from the old list. For the next week or two, please direct discussion at both lists. Once a bit of time has passed and most active developers have subscribed to the new list, we will focus discussion on the new list only. We will send several more emails to the old list to remind people to subscribe to the new list. Why are we doing this? 1 The new list is mailman and managed by the Ceph community, which means that when people have problems with subscribe, mails being lost, or any other list-related problems, we can actually do something about it. Currently we have no real ability to perform any management-related tasks on the vger list. 2 The vger majordomo setup also has some frustrating features/limitations, the most notable being that it only accepts plaintext email; anything with MIME or HTML formatting is rejected. This confuses many users. 3 The kernel development and general Ceph development have slightly different modes of collaboration. Kernel code review is based on email patches to the list and reviewing via email, which can be noisy and verbose for those not involved in kernel development. The Ceph userspace code is handled via github pull requests, which capture both proposed changes and code review. Thanks!