hi folks,
tl;dr: can we stop building/testing master on bionic for a better GCC?
long story: two months ago, we migrated[0] our CI jobs running "make
check" from ubuntu/bionic to ubuntu/focal so we have access to more
packages offered by focal for testing.
but we are still suffering[1] from the ancient packages offered by bionic:
- buggy tcmalloc. see https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/41340
- GCC 7.5.0 shipped along with ubuntu/bionic. i think the support of
std::filesystem is just the tip of the iceberg, as we've migrated to
C++17, there will be more and more demand for a compiler and a
standard library with better C++17 (and C++20 in future) support.
GCC-7 has good support[2] of C++17, but that does not imply that
libstdc++ shipped along with GCC-7 has.
but we have to build and test on bionic[3], for couple reasons:
- some upgrade tests from octopus are performed on bionic. for
instance, see https://github.com/ceph/ceph/tree/master/qa/suites/upgrade/pacific-x/parall…
- cosbench used by perf tests needs bionic: see
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/49139
- // please note rados/thrash-old-clients/distro$/ubuntu_18.04.yaml is
safe even after we stop building master on bionic, as we've
switched[4] to cephadm for thrash-old-clients
and because of https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/50218, we cannot use
ubuntu-toolchain-r PPA repo for newer GCC.
so, i propose we
- drop building/testing master on bionic.
- drop the upgrade test from pacific on bionic
- drop the cosbench workload from rados/perf test suites
what do you think?
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[0] https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/49653
[1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/41433#discussion_r636604231
[2] https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx-status.html
[3] https://github.com/ceph/ceph-build/pull/1794#issuecomment-815435506
[4] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/32377
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 2:34 AM Ansgar Jazdzewski
<a.jazdzewski(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm fine with dropping Filestore in the R release!
> Only one thing to add is: please add a warning to all versions we can upgrade from to the R release son not only Quincy but also pacific!
Sure!
- Neha
>
> Thanks,
> Ansgar
>
> Neha Ojha <nojha(a)redhat.com> schrieb am Di., 1. Juni 2021, 21:24:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Given that BlueStore has been the default and more widely used
>> objectstore since quite some time, we would like to understand whether
>> we can consider deprecating FileStore in our next release, Quincy and
>> remove it in the R release. There is also a proposal [0] to add a
>> health warning to report FileStore OSDs.
>>
>> We discussed this topic in the Ceph Month session today [1] and there
>> were no objections from anybody on the call. I wanted to reach out to
>> the list to check if there are any concerns about this or any users
>> who will be impacted by this decision.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Neha
>>
>> [0] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/39440
>> [1] https://pad.ceph.com/p/ceph-month-june-2021
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Hi Folks,
A couple of key developers on the core team are out for a national
holiday today and I'm trying to catch up on a couple of projects, so
let's cancel the meeting for today. Have a great weekend everyone!
Mark
Hello everyone,
Given that BlueStore has been the default and more widely used
objectstore since quite some time, we would like to understand whether
we can consider deprecating FileStore in our next release, Quincy and
remove it in the R release. There is also a proposal [0] to add a
health warning to report FileStore OSDs.
We discussed this topic in the Ceph Month session today [1] and there
were no objections from anybody on the call. I wanted to reach out to
the list to check if there are any concerns about this or any users
who will be impacted by this decision.
Thanks,
Neha
[0] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/39440
[1] https://pad.ceph.com/p/ceph-month-june-2021
hi folks,
i am glad to announce that with the help of Sven and Chris,
ceph-client homebrew for MacOS was updated with a recent master
commit. this homebrew provides some essential client side tools and
libraries which allow us to talk to a ceph cluster from MacOS machine,
like:
ceph
ceph-conf
ceph-fuse
rados
rbd
in addition to the executables and libraries, the brew also packages
the header files. so, if you are up to do some development with
librados, librbd and libcephfs, you can also have the necessary bits
from the brew. see
https://github.com/mulbc/homebrew-ceph-client
it comes with a pre-bottled brew for BigSur on amd64.
the last release[0] of the brew was packaged 3 years ago with mimic-13.2.2 .
please note, this is not official - do not expect frequent updates or
support from
Ceph.
cheers,
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[0] https://ceph-users.ceph.narkive.com/bnyGalkH/ceph-client-libraries-for-osx
--
Regards
Kefu Chai
Next week we've got CDM at EMEA-friendly time: 2 June @ 11am EST
Join us at:
https://bluejeans.com/908675367
There's one rados topic so far, related to unfound/EIO handling
with OSD restarts, and how to test this area better. Thanks te
Jin Hase and Mykola Golub for bringing this up1
Please add further topics here:
https://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/wiki/CDM_02-JUN-2021
Josh
We are planning to test and release the next pacific point release
later this month.
If you have any code changes that are to be included pls raise PRs and
add labels "nautilus -batch1" and "needs-qa".
Thx
YuriW
> As nautilus is nearing its EOL we are planning to do a next (maybe the
> last) point release - nautilus 14.2.22 in the first part of June 2021.
>
> If you have any code changes that are to be included pls raise PRs and
> add labels "nautilus -batch1" and "needs-qa", so they can be tested
> and merged in time for 14.2.22.
Can somebody take a look into [1]? Seems nautilus 14.2.17 regression
[1] https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/50249 <https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/50249>
k
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