Awful new dashboard in Reef
Dear Ceph users, I just upgraded my cluster to Reef, and with the new version came also a revamped dashboard. Unfortunately the new dashboard is really awful to me: 1) it's no longer possible to see the status of the PGs: in the old dashboard it was very easy to see e.g. how many PGs were recovering, how many scrubbing etc. by clicking on the PG Status widget. Now the interface shows just how many are Ok and how many are working, without details, and I have to go to the command line to understand what's happening (not really comfortable on mobile) 2) The new timeline graphs do not work properly: changing the time frame sometimes produce empty graphs, 3) The instant values in Cluster utilization are refreshed so slowly that I cannot properly monitor the cluster behavior in real time Is it just me or maybe my impressions are shared by someone else? Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation? Thanks, Nicola
On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 18:05, Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it> wrote:
Is it just me or maybe my impressions are shared by someone else? Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation?
I wonder about the implementation choice for this dashboard. I find with our Reef cluster it seems to get stuck during refresh or stutters trying to update. This is on a 1200 OSD cluster, not sure if that number is too high for it? I have around a dozen web-based dashboards open in Firefox, all the usual suspects: LibreNMS, Netbox, AAP, OME and so on. They all work and are responsive, refresh their pages, but the Ceph one bogs down. It attempts to show alert popups but they get backlogged and appear as a stream of popups one after another. I gave up on the dashboard and continue to use the CLI. I would really appreciate a snappy responsive, information dense dashboard view - maybe in the S-release?
My cluster has 104 OSDs, so I don't think this can be a factor for the malfunctioning.
Hey guys, Thanks for the feedback. The new landing page is still improving. While we are doing it, we haven't removed the old page completely. If you want you can switch to the old Dashboard by switching the feature toggle in the dashboard. `ceph dashboard feature disable dashboard` will bring back the old dashboard. I know the naming is a bit weird but this is a temporary thing that's going to stay for shorter period. Once we have the new dashboard page improved we will completely remove the older one. We'll also include a toggle in the main page to toggle between the old and new page for the time being. Regards, Nizam On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 2:20 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it> wrote:
My cluster has 104 OSDs, so I don't think this can be a factor for the malfunctioning. _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@ceph.io To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@ceph.io
Hi Nizam, many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By the way, one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both the old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in desktop mode). Thanks again, Nicola
Thank you Nicola, We are collecting these feedbacks. For a while we weren't focusing on the mobile view of the dashboard. If there are users using those, we'll look into it as well. Will let everyone know soon with the improvements in the UI. Regards, Nizam On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:23 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it> wrote:
Hi Nizam,
many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By the way, one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both the old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in desktop mode). Thanks again,
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Screen captures please. Not everyone is installing the default ones.
We are collecting these feedbacks. For a while we weren't focusing on the mobile view of the dashboard. If there are users using those, we'll look into it as well. Will let everyone know soon with the improvements in the UI.
Regards, Nizam
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:23 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it> wrote:
Hi Nizam,
many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By the way, one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both the old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in desktop mode). Thanks again,
Hey Marc, We have some screenshots in a blog post we did a while back: https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2023/landing-page/ and also in the documentation: https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/mgr/dashboard/#overview-of-the-dashboard-lan... Regards, On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:59 PM Marc <Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu> wrote:
Screen captures please. Not everyone is installing the default ones.
We are collecting these feedbacks. For a while we weren't focusing on the mobile view of the dashboard. If there are users using those, we'll look into it as well. Will let everyone know soon with the improvements in the UI.
Regards, Nizam
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:23 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it> wrote:
Hi Nizam,
many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By the way, one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both the old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in desktop mode). Thanks again,
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Hmmm, I think I like this capacity card, much better than the one I am currently using ;)
We have some screenshots in a blog post we did a while back: https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2023/landing-page/ and also in the documentation: https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/mgr/dashboard/#overview-of-the-dashboard- landing-page
Regards,
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:59 PM Marc <Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu <mailto:Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu> > wrote:
Screen captures please. Not everyone is installing the default ones.
We are collecting these feedbacks. For a while we weren't focusing
mobile view of the dashboard. If there are users using those, we'll look into it as well. Will let everyone know soon with the improvements in the UI.
Regards, Nizam
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:23 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it <mailto:mori@fi.infn.it> > wrote:
Hi Nizam,
many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By the way, one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both
on the the
old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in desktop mode). Thanks again,
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Where can I find the source of this dashboard? I assume this is also in grafana not?
Hmmm, I think I like this capacity card, much better than the one I am currently using ;)
We have some screenshots in a blog post we did a while back: https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2023/landing-page/ and also in the documentation: https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/mgr/dashboard/#overview-of-the-dashboard- landing-page
Regards,
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:59 PM Marc <Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu <mailto:Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu> > wrote:
Screen captures please. Not everyone is installing the default ones.
We are collecting these feedbacks. For a while we weren't focusing
mobile view of the dashboard. If there are users using those, we'll look into it as well. Will let everyone know soon with the improvements in the UI.
Regards, Nizam
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:23 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it <mailto:mori@fi.infn.it> > wrote:
Hi Nizam,
many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By the way, one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both
on the the
old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in desktop mode). Thanks again,
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The source is prometheus. The below are the set of queries that we use to populate the charts. USEDCAPACITY = 'ceph_cluster_total_used_bytes', WRITEIOPS = 'sum(rate(ceph_pool_wr[1m]))', READIOPS = 'sum(rate(ceph_pool_rd[1m]))', READLATENCY = 'avg_over_time(ceph_osd_apply_latency_ms[1m])', WRITELATENCY = 'avg_over_time(ceph_osd_commit_latency_ms[1m])', READCLIENTTHROUGHPUT = 'sum(rate(ceph_pool_rd_bytes[1m]))', WRITECLIENTTHROUGHPUT = 'sum(rate(ceph_pool_wr_bytes[1m]))', RECOVERYBYTES = 'sum(rate(ceph_osd_recovery_bytes[1m]))' And I think all of them are available in grafana. Correct me if I'm wrong @Pedro Gonzalez Gomez <pegonzal@redhat.com> Regards, Nizam On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 5:22 PM Marc <Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu> wrote:
Where can I find the source of this dashboard? I assume this is also in grafana not?
Hmmm, I think I like this capacity card, much better than the one I am currently using ;)
We have some screenshots in a blog post we did a while back: https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2023/landing-page/ and also in the documentation:
landing-page
Regards,
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:59 PM Marc <Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu <mailto:Marc@f1-outsourcing.eu> > wrote:
Screen captures please. Not everyone is installing the default ones.
> > We are collecting these feedbacks. For a while we weren't focusing on the > mobile view > of the dashboard. If there are users using those, we'll look into it as > well. Will let everyone know > soon with the improvements in the UI. > > Regards, > Nizam > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:23 PM Nicola Mori <mori@fi.infn.it <mailto:mori@fi.infn.it> > wrote: > > > Hi Nizam, > > > > many thanks for the tip. And sorry for the quite rude subject of my > > post, I really appreciate the dashboard revamp effort but I was > > frustrated about the malfunctioning and missing features. By
https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/mgr/dashboard/#overview-of-the-dashboard- the
way, > > one of the things that really need to be improved is the support for > > mobile devices, the dashboard on my phone is quite unusable, both the > > old and the new one (although the old gets better when browsing in > > desktop mode). > > Thanks again, > > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@ceph.io <mailto:ceph- users@ceph.io> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@ceph.io <mailto:ceph-users-leave@ceph.io>
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