Additional names that could be considered: Sea Monster Sea Bear Star (for Patrick star) And for the best underwater squirrel friend, Sandy. From: Boris <bb@kervyn.de> Date: Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 9:35 AM To: ceph-users@ceph.io <ceph-users@ceph.io> Subject: [ceph-users] Re: squid release codename *** External email: use caution *** I have to admit: all the Spongebob references are kinda cool :D Am Do., 15. Aug. 2024 um 15:05 Uhr schrieb Patrick Donnelly < pdonnell@redhat.com>:

On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 8:29 AM Alfredo Rezinovsky <alfrenovsky@gmail.com> wrote:

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I think is a very bad idea to name a release with the name of the most popular http cache. It will difficult googling.

This was discussed in: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpad.ceph.com%2Fp%2Fs&data=05%7C02%7Celi.tarrago%40lexisnexisrisk.com%7C4979743eff2f4a78329308dcbd2f1847%7C9274ee3f94254109a27f9fb15c10675d%7C0%7C0%7C638593257179433754%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zdPk%2BtQZtas%2Bo6sAXLgDFAxNNFLKpgoAUHdKVypX118%3D&reserved=0<https://pad.ceph.com/p/s>

That objection was raised and not considered sufficient justification to prevent the use of "squid".

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On Thursday, August 15, 2024 1:22:32 PM EDT Devender Singh wrote:

Few More If you like.

Metaverse Jumbo

Regards Dev

In case it wasn't clear from Patrick's earlier mail, the codename "Squid" was decided upon many many months back and it is extremely unlikely to be changed at this point. The "T" release codename was also discussed and chosen to be "Tentacle" in Feb. 2024. AFAIK, the next chance to suggest names for a release will be "U". So stand by and watch the lists to see when the naming pad for that release is announced. :-) (Some time next year I suspect)

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On Aug 15, 2024, at 10:12 AM, Tarrago, Eli (RIS-BCT) <Eli.Tarrago@lexisnexisrisk.com> wrote:

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Additional names that could be considered:

Sea Monster Sea Bear Star (for Patrick star)

And for the best underwater squirrel friend, Sandy.

From: Boris <bb@kervyn.de> Date: Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 9:35 AM To: ceph-users@ceph.io <ceph-users@ceph.io> Subject: [ceph-users] Re: squid release codename *** External email: use caution ***

I have to admit: all the Spongebob references are kinda cool :D

Am Do., 15. Aug. 2024 um 15:05 Uhr schrieb Patrick Donnelly < pdonnell@redhat.com>:

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On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 8:29 AM Alfredo Rezinovsky <alfrenovsky@gmail.com> wrote:

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I think is a very bad idea to name a release with the name of the most popular http cache. It will difficult googling.

This was discussed in: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpad.ce ph.com%2Fp%2Fs&data=05%7C02%7Celi.tarrago%40lexisnexisrisk.com%7C4979743e ff2f4a78329308dcbd2f1847%7C9274ee3f94254109a27f9fb15c10675d%7C0%7C0%7C638 593257179433754%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zdPk%2BtQZtas%2Bo6sA XLgDFAxNNFLKpgoAUHdKVypX118%3D&reserved=0<https://pad.ceph.com/p/s>

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That objection was raised and not considered sufficient justification to prevent the use of "squid".

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Bike shedding at its best, so I've also to get my paintbrush for a good place on the shed... ... that said, naming a *release* of a software with the name of well known other open source software is pure crazyness. What's coming next? Ceph Redis? Ceph Apache? Or Apache Ceph? Seriously, do you really think this is a good idea? Nico -- Sustainable and modern Infrastructures by ungleich.ch

It's going to wreak havoc on search engines that can't tell when someone's looking up Ceph versus the long-establish Squid Proxy.

Search engines are way smarter than that, and I daresay that people are far more likely to search for “Ceph” or “Ceph squid" than for “squid” alone looking for Ceph.

I don’t know how many more (sub)species there are to start over from A (the first release was Argonaut)

Ammonite is a natural, and two years later we *must* release Cthulhu. Cartoon names run some risk of trademark issues.

... that said, naming a *release* of a software with the name of well known other open source software is pure crazyness.

I haven’t seen the web cache used in years — maybe still in Antarctica? These are vanity names for fun. I’ve found that more people know the numeric release they run than the codename anyway.

What's coming next? Ceph Redis? Ceph Apache? Or Apache Ceph?

Since you mention Apache, their “Spark” is an overload. And Apache itself is cultural appropriation but that’s a tangent. When I worked for Advanced Micro Devices we used the Auto Mounter Daemon I’ve also used AMANDA for backups, which was not a Boston song. Let’s not forget Apple’s iOS and Cisco’s IOS. Ceph Octopus, and this cable https://usb.brando.com/usb-octopus-4-port-hub-cable_p999c39d15.html and of course this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/110473961774 The first Ceph release named after Jason’s posse. Bobcat colliding with skid-loaders and Goldthwaite Dumpling and gyoza Firefly and the Uriah Heep album (though Demons & Wizards was better) Giant and the Liz Taylor movie (and grocery store) Hammer and Jan Jewel and the singer Moreover, Ceph Nautilus: Korg software Process engineering software CMS GNOME file manager Firefox and the Clint Eastwood movie Chrome and the bumper on a 1962 Karmann Ghia Slack and the Linux distribution When I worked for Cisco, people thought I was in food service. Namespaces are crowded. Overlap happens. Context resolves readily. Within the Cephapod scheme we’ve used Octopus and Nautilus, to not use Squid would be odd. And Shantungendoceras doesn’t roll off the tongue. “What’s in a name?” - Shakespeare

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 9:12 AM Anthony D'Atri <aad@dreamsnake.net> wrote:

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It's going to wreak havoc on search engines that can't tell when someone's looking up Ceph versus the long-establish Squid Proxy.

Search engines are way smarter than that, and I daresay that people are far more likely to search for “Ceph” or “Ceph squid" than for “squid” alone looking for Ceph.

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I don’t know how many more (sub)species there are to start over from A (the first release was Argonaut)

Ammonite is a natural, and two years later we *must* release Cthulhu.

Cartoon names run some risk of trademark issues.

...

... that said, naming a *release* of a software with the name of well known other open source software is pure crazyness.

I haven’t seen the web cache used in years — maybe still in Antarctica? These are vanity names for fun. I’ve found that more people know the numeric release they run than the codename anyway.

...

What's coming next? Ceph Redis? Ceph Apache? Or Apache Ceph?

Since you mention Apache, their “Spark” is an overload. And Apache itself is cultural appropriation but that’s a tangent.

When I worked for Advanced Micro Devices we used the Auto Mounter Daemon

I’ve also used AMANDA for backups, which was not a Boston song.

Let’s not forget Apple’s iOS and Cisco’s IOS.

Ceph Octopus, and this cable https://usb.brando.com/usb-octopus-4-port-hub-cable_p999c39d15.html and of course this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/110473961774

The first Ceph release named after Jason’s posse. Bobcat colliding with skid-loaders and Goldthwaite

Originally I remember also suggesting "banana" (after bananaslug) [1] , imagine how much worse it could have been. [1] https://marc.info/?l=ceph-devel&m=133954522619841&w=2

Dumpling and gyoza Firefly and the Uriah Heep album (though Demons & Wizards was better) Giant and the Liz Taylor movie (and grocery store) Hammer and Jan Jewel and the singer Moreover, Ceph Nautilus: Korg software Process engineering software CMS GNOME file manager Firefox and the Clint Eastwood movie Chrome and the bumper on a 1962 Karmann Ghia Slack and the Linux distribution

When I worked for Cisco, people thought I was in food service. Namespaces are crowded. Overlap happens. Context resolves readily.

Within the Cephapod scheme we’ve used Octopus and Nautilus, to not use Squid would be odd. And Shantungendoceras doesn’t roll off the tongue.

“What’s in a name?” - Shakespeare

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----- Le 19 Aoû 24, à 15:45, Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub yehuda@redhat.com a écrit :

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 9:12 AM Anthony D'Atri <aad@dreamsnake.net> wrote:

...

...

It's going to wreak havoc on search engines that can't tell when someone's looking up Ceph versus the long-establish Squid Proxy.

Search engines are way smarter than that, and I daresay that people are far more likely to search for “Ceph” or “Ceph squid" than for “squid” alone looking for Ceph.

...

I don’t know how many more (sub)species there are to start over from A (the first release was Argonaut)

Ammonite is a natural, and two years later we *must* release Cthulhu.

Cartoon names run some risk of trademark issues.

...

... that said, naming a *release* of a software with the name of well known other open source software is pure crazyness.

I haven’t seen the web cache used in years — maybe still in Antarctica? These are vanity names for fun. I’ve found that more people know the numeric release they run than the codename anyway.

...

What's coming next? Ceph Redis? Ceph Apache? Or Apache Ceph?

Since you mention Apache, their “Spark” is an overload. And Apache itself is cultural appropriation but that’s a tangent.

When I worked for Advanced Micro Devices we used the Auto Mounter Daemon

I’ve also used AMANDA for backups, which was not a Boston song.

Let’s not forget Apple’s iOS and Cisco’s IOS.

Ceph Octopus, and this cable https://usb.brando.com/usb-octopus-4-port-hub-cable_p999c39d15.html and of course this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/110473961774

The first Ceph release named after Jason’s posse. Bobcat colliding with skid-loaders and Goldthwaite

Originally I remember also suggesting "banana" (after bananaslug) [1] , imagine how much worse it could have been.

[1] https://marc.info/?l=ceph-devel&m=133954522619841&w=2

Could have been Minions! They run after Bananas... Kevin instead of Kraken, Stuart instead of Squid, etc. :-D Frédéric.

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Dumpling and gyoza Firefly and the Uriah Heep album (though Demons & Wizards was better) Giant and the Liz Taylor movie (and grocery store) Hammer and Jan Jewel and the singer Moreover, Ceph Nautilus: Korg software Process engineering software CMS GNOME file manager Firefox and the Clint Eastwood movie Chrome and the bumper on a 1962 Karmann Ghia Slack and the Linux distribution

When I worked for Cisco, people thought I was in food service. Namespaces are crowded. Overlap happens. Context resolves readily.

Within the Cephapod scheme we’ve used Octopus and Nautilus, to not use Squid would be odd. And Shantungendoceras doesn’t roll off the tongue.

“What’s in a name?” - Shakespeare

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