Is there any way to fine tune peering/pg relocation/rebalance?
Hello, Is there a way to somehow fine tune the rebalance even further than basic tuning steps when adding new osds? Today I've added some osd to the index pool and it generated many slow ops due to OSD op latency increase + read operation latency increase = high put get latency. https://ibb.co/album/9mN6GQ osd max backfill, max recovery, recovery ops priority are 1. 1 nvme drive has 4 osd, each osd has around 80pg. The steps how I add the osds: 1. Set norebalance 2. add the osds 3. wait for peering 4. unset rebalance It takes like 15-20 mins to became normal without interrupting the rebalance the user traffic. Thank you, Istvan ________________________________ This message is confidential and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by copyright or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply email and delete it from your system. It is prohibited to copy this message or disclose its content to anyone. Any confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost by any mistaken delivery or unauthorized disclosure of the message. All messages sent to and from Agoda may be monitored to ensure compliance with company policies, to protect the company's interests and to remove potential malware. Electronic messages may be intercepted, amended, lost or deleted, or contain viruses.
We have had success using pgremapper[1] for this sort of thing, in both index and data augments. 1. Set nobackfill, norebalance 2. Add OSDs 3. pgremapper cancel-backfill 4. Unset flags 5. Slowly loop `pgremapper undo-upmaps` at our desired rate, or allow the balancer to do this work There's still going to be the hit from peering, especially when you change the CRUSH map (before even bringing the OSDs in), but in general peering has been very quick for us for the last few releases, and s3 has enough overhead where it's not overly noticed. We haven't done multiple OSDs per device, however, and have plenty CPU power. [1] https://github.com/digitalocean/pgremapper On 2023-08-29 17:51, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Hello,
Is there a way to somehow fine tune the rebalance even further than basic tuning steps when adding new osds? Today I've added some osd to the index pool and it generated many slow ops due to OSD op latency increase + read operation latency increase = high put get latency.
osd max backfill, max recovery, recovery ops priority are 1. 1 nvme drive has 4 osd, each osd has around 80pg.
The steps how I add the osds:
1. Set norebalance 2. add the osds 3. wait for peering 4. unset rebalance
It takes like 15-20 mins to became normal without interrupting the rebalance the user traffic.
Thank you, Istvan
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Seems like tested on nautilus but I still see commits last month so I guess it is good with octopus. ________________________________ From: Matt Vandermeulen <storage@reenigne.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:44 AM To: Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) <Istvan.Szabo@agoda.com> Cc: Ceph Users <ceph-users@ceph.io> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Is there any way to fine tune peering/pg relocation/rebalance? Email received from the internet. If in doubt, don't click any link nor open any attachment ! ________________________________ We have had success using pgremapper[1] for this sort of thing, in both index and data augments. 1. Set nobackfill, norebalance 2. Add OSDs 3. pgremapper cancel-backfill 4. Unset flags 5. Slowly loop `pgremapper undo-upmaps` at our desired rate, or allow the balancer to do this work There's still going to be the hit from peering, especially when you change the CRUSH map (before even bringing the OSDs in), but in general peering has been very quick for us for the last few releases, and s3 has enough overhead where it's not overly noticed. We haven't done multiple OSDs per device, however, and have plenty CPU power. [1] https://github.com/digitalocean/pgremapper On 2023-08-29 17:51, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda) wrote:
Hello,
Is there a way to somehow fine tune the rebalance even further than basic tuning steps when adding new osds? Today I've added some osd to the index pool and it generated many slow ops due to OSD op latency increase + read operation latency increase = high put get latency.
osd max backfill, max recovery, recovery ops priority are 1. 1 nvme drive has 4 osd, each osd has around 80pg.
The steps how I add the osds:
1. Set norebalance 2. add the osds 3. wait for peering 4. unset rebalance
It takes like 15-20 mins to became normal without interrupting the rebalance the user traffic.
Thank you, Istvan
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The "osdmaptool" can be used. like this: $ ceph osd getmap -o om $ osdmaptool om --upmap out.txt --upmap-pool xxx --upmap-deviation 5 --upmap-max 10 $ cat out.txt $ source out.txt
I'm using upmap with max deviation 1, maybe is it too aggressive? ________________________________ From: Louis Koo <zhucan.k8s@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 4:17 AM To: ceph-users@ceph.io <ceph-users@ceph.io> Subject: [ceph-users] Re: Is there any way to fine tune peering/pg relocation/rebalance? Email received from the internet. If in doubt, don't click any link nor open any attachment ! ________________________________ The "osdmaptool" can be used. like this: $ ceph osd getmap -o om $ osdmaptool om --upmap out.txt --upmap-pool xxx --upmap-deviation 5 --upmap-max 10 $ cat out.txt $ source out.txt _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@ceph.io To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@ceph.io ________________________________ This message is confidential and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by copyright or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply email and delete it from your system. It is prohibited to copy this message or disclose its content to anyone. Any confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost by any mistaken delivery or unauthorized disclosure of the message. All messages sent to and from Agoda may be monitored to ensure compliance with company policies, to protect the company's interests and to remove potential malware. Electronic messages may be intercepted, amended, lost or deleted, or contain viruses.
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Louis Koo
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Matt Vandermeulen
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Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)