Ceph Dashboard - Community News Sticker [Feedback]
Hello, We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are planning to bring in for upcoming releases. On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified. Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads). Regards, -- Nizamudeen A Software Engineer Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com/> <https://www.redhat.com/>
09.11.2023 10:35, Nizamudeen A пишет:
Hello,
We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are planning to bring in for upcoming releases.
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified.
Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads).
Regards,
Hello! I think this feature will require internet access from servers, my servers have no internet access, so for me this feature is useless. Thank you!
My vote would be "no": * This is an operational high-criticality system. Not the right place to have distracting other stuff or to bloat the dashboard. * Our ceph systems deliberately don't have direct internet connectivity. * There is plenty of useful operational information that could fill the screen real-estate. * Effort could be much better spent on real bugs. Sorry! Chris On 09/11/2023 06:35, Nizamudeen A wrote:
Hello,
We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are planning to bring in for upcoming releases.
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified.
Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads).
Regards,
Hi, On my opinion... Please don't. In worst case, maybe only messages concerning critical updates (security, stability issues). For two reasons: 1) as low as the impact may be, server sources are precious... 2) my time is also precious. If I login to the GUI, it's with the intention to do some work. Knowing myself, I will be distracted with miscellaneous messages. If I want to get myself up to speed with events, updates, ect... I'll direct myself to the different channels already available. I think mailing lists, newsletters, social media channels are maybe more appropriate. BTW: thanks a lot for the user input on these decisions! Greetings, Dominique.
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Nizamudeen A <nia@redhat.com> Verzonden: donderdag 9 november 2023 7:36 Aan: ceph-users <ceph-users@ceph.io>; dev <dev@ceph.io> CC: ceph-dashboard-core <ceph-dashboard-core@redhat.com> Onderwerp: [ceph-users] Ceph Dashboard - Community News Sticker [Feedback]
Hello,
We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are planning to bring in for upcoming releases.
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified.
Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads).
Regards, --
Nizamudeen A
Software Engineer
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On 11/9/23 07:35, Nizamudeen A wrote:
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information
like others have already said, it's not the right place to put that information for lots of reasons. one more to add: putting the information on the dashboard would be only visible for those that have direct access to the ceph cluster in an organisation, which usually are very small group of people. putting the same (valuable!) information on the website where it belongs, makes it much easier accessible to everyone interested. (or in other words: this stuff should be on the normal website already anyway, so, no extra value in duplicating it on the dashboard). thanks for asking though. this sounds like the "we're out of things to do"-syndrom which can be often observed in matured projects where people start to integrate/duplicate things into it to make it the one-and-only entry-point for $everything, which in turn makes it worse for what it used to do perfectly in the first place. Regards, Daniel
Hi, No, I don't think it's not very useful at best, and bad at worst. In the IT organizations I've worked so far, any systems that actually store data, were in the highest security zone, where no connection incoming/or outgoing to the internet was allowed. Our systems couldn't even resolve internet DNS names. Our IT Risk would never allow such connections. Access to the dashboard would also be limited to a few IT operations people, who wouldn't have interest or time to look through community events and blog posts. Software that assumes it has free access to internet always causes more work/hassle for people who have to manage it in IT environments that have a no internet access policy Thanks & Regards Reto Am Do., 9. Nov. 2023 um 07:36 Uhr schrieb Nizamudeen A <nia@redhat.com>:
Hello,
We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are planning to bring in for upcoming releases.
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified.
Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads).
Regards, --
Nizamudeen A
Software Engineer
Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com/> <https://www.redhat.com/> _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@ceph.io To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@ceph.io
IMHO we don't need yet another place to look for information, especially one that some operators never see. ymmv.
Hello,
We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are planning to bring in for upcoming releases.
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified.
Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads).
Regards, --
Nizamudeen A
Thank you everyone for the feedback! It's always good to hear if something gives value or not to the UI and to users before we go ahead and start doing it. And btw, if people are wondering whether we are short on features, the short answer is no. Along with Multi-Cluster Management & monitoring through the ceph-dashboard, some more extra management features will be coming in on the upcoming major release. The News Sticker was one of the items that was on the list. If you have more feedback on something that you guys would want to see in the GUI, please let us know and we'll add it to our list and work on it. Regards, Nizam On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 7:24 PM Anthony D'Atri <anthony.datri@gmail.com> wrote:
IMHO we don't need yet another place to look for information, especially one that some operators never see. ymmv.
Hello,
We wanted to get some feedback on one of the features that we are
planning
to bring in for upcoming releases.
On the Ceph GUI, we thought it could be interesting to show information regarding the community events, ceph release information (Release notes and changelogs) and maybe even notify about new blog post releases and also inform regarding the community group meetings. There would be options to subscribe to the events that you want to get notified.
Before proceeding with its implementation, we thought it'd be good to get some community feedback around it. So please let us know what you think (the goods and the bads).
Regards, --
Nizamudeen A
ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@ceph.io To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@ceph.io
participants (7)
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Anthony D'Atri
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Chris Palmer
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Daniel Baumann
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Dmitry Melekhov
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Dominique Ramaekers
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Nizamudeen A
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Reto Gysi